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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 93 03:44:37 PST From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Info-Hams Digest V93 #1440 To: Info-Hams Info-Hams Digest Thu, 9 Dec 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1440 Today's Topics: Almost new gear for Sale ARRL's callsign admin position Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 05 December Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 06 December For Sale - Almost new gear HDN Releases Micros & DSPs New to HAM Send Replies or notes for publication to: <Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu> Send subscription requests to: <Info-Hams-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu> Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 7 Dec 93 00:26:57 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!newsserver.cshl.org!newsserver.cshl.org!not-for-mail@rutgers.rutgers.edu Subject: Almost new gear for Sale To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Due to some major changes in my life I am forced to sell all of my nearly new ham radio gear. All of the equipment is less than one year old, and was purchased by me. Here is the list: Kenwood TS-690 - $ 1,075. MFJ 948 Tuner $ 75. Astron RS-35m Power Supply $ 95. Kantronics KPC-3 $ 65. Alinco DJ-580 Dual Band HT $ 275. MFJ - 1796 multi band vertical Antenna $ 100. You can reach me by phone or e-mail. -Fred _______________________________________________________________________ >| ==== Fred J. Stellabotte stellabo@cshl.org >| ==== Computer Systems Manager >| ==== CFI-AI-MEI HAM: N2JCD >| ==== ___________________________________________________________ >| ==== Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory Voice: (516)367-8420 >| ==== 1 Bungtown Road Fax: (516)367-8845 >| ==== Cold Spring Harbor, New York 11724 _______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: 9 Dec 93 08:50:31 GMT From: ogicse!emory!swrinde!menudo.uh.edu!uuneo!sugar!rcoyle@network.ucsd.edu Subject: ARRL's callsign admin position To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <L445Dc2w165w@mystis.wariat.org>, dan@mystis.wariat.org (Dan Pickersgill N8PKV) writes: > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > | Crime in America is a thing of the PAST!!! | > | The Brady Bill is Law. | > -------------------------------------------------------------------- If you honestly believe this, Dan, you're an even bigger fool than I first thought you were. --Robert -- ________________________________________________________________________ | Anyone who cannot cope with Morse code is not fully human. At best | | he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear shoes, bathe, and | | not make messes in the house. | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 11:10:34 MST From: usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!destroyer!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!nebulus!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 05 December To: info-hams@ucsd.edu /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY 05 DECEMBER, 1993 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ (Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data) SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY INDICES FOR 05 DECEMBER, 1993 ------------------------------------------------------------ NOTE: The background x-ray statistic was estimated and may be in error slightly. Proton fluence values are also unavailable for today. !!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 339, 12/05/93 10.7 FLUX=101 90-AVG=096 SSN=089 BKI=0012 3332 BAI=007 BGND-XRAY=B2.1 FLU1=*.*E+** FLU10=*.*E+** PKI=2123 3332 PAI=011 BOU-DEV=003,004,007,015,039,035,022,010 DEV-AVG=017 NT SWF=00:000 XRAY-MAX= C4.3 @ 1034UT XRAY-MIN= B1.7 @ 1520UT XRAY-AVG= B3.8 NEUTN-MAX= +002% @ 0250UT NEUTN-MIN= -003% @ 1400UT NEUTN-AVG= -0.4% PCA-MAX= +0.1DB @ 0825UT PCA-MIN= -0.4DB @ 1140UT PCA-AVG= -0.0DB BOUTF-MAX=55359NT @ 2350UT BOUTF-MIN=55331NT @ 1928UT BOUTF-AVG=55349NT GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT G7-AVG=+070,+000,+000 GOES6-MAX=P:+30081NT@ 0436UT GOES6-MIN=N:-069NT@ 0952UT G6-AVG=+116,+023,-040 FLUXFCST=STD:100,100,100;SESC:100,100,100 BAI/PAI-FCST=010,010,010/010,010,018 KFCST=1123 4221 1123 4221 27DAY-AP=014,009 27DAY-KP=4333 3432 2323 2232 WARNINGS=*SWF ALERTS= !!END-DATA!! NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 04 DEC 93 is not available. The Full Kp Indices for 04 DEC 93 are: 2+ 2- 2- 2o 2+ 2o 3o 2o SYNOPSIS OF ACTIVITY -------------------- Solar activity was low. Two uncorrelated C-class x-ray bursts were detected. The largest was a C4 at 05/1033UT. Region 7629 (S22E30) continues to grow and shows signs of becoming magnetically complex. Solar activity forecast: solar activity is expected to be very low to low. Region 7629 has the best chance of C-class activity and an outside chance of producing an isolated M flare. The geomagnetic field has been at quiet to unsettled levels for the past 24 hours. High latitude stations saw a period of unsettled to minor storm levels between 05/1200 and 05/1500UT. Geophysical activity forecast: the geomagnetic field is expected to be quiet to unsettled for the entire period. Event probabilities 06 dec-08 dec Class M 15/15/15 Class X 01/01/01 Proton 01/01/01 PCAF Green Geomagnetic activity probabilities 06 dec-08 dec A. Middle Latitudes Active 15/15/25 Minor Storm 05/05/10 Major-Severe Storm 01/01/05 B. High Latitudes Active 20/20/20 Minor Storm 10/10/10 Major-Severe Storm 01/01/05 HF propagation conditions were normal over all regions, although sporadic high-latitude night-sector signal instabilities have persisted at slightly above normal levels. Conditions are expected to remain normal over all regions. There is a slightly increasing probability for SWFs over daylit paths during the next 72 hours due to possible minor solar flares. COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS ======================================================== REGIONS WITH SUNSPOTS. LOCATIONS VALID AT 05/2400Z DECEMBER ----------------------------------------------------------- NMBR LOCATION LO AREA Z LL NN MAG TYPE 7623 S11W53 162 0000 AXX 02 002 ALPHA 7624 N03W88 197 0180 HSX 02 001 ALPHA 7627 S19E03 106 0110 CSO 09 009 BETA 7629 S23E30 079 0180 DAI 10 017 BETA 7630 S10E28 081 0050 CSO 05 010 BETA 7625 S15W76 185 PLAGE REGIONS DUE TO RETURN 06 DECEMBER TO 08 DECEMBER NMBR LAT LO 7618 N07 339 LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 05 DECEMBER, 1993 ------------------------------------------------------- BEGIN MAX END RGN LOC XRAY OP 245MHZ 10CM SWEEP NONE POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 05 DECEMBER, 1993 ----------------------------------------------------------- BEGIN MAX END LOCATION TYPE SIZE DUR II IV 05/ 1621 1642 1729 LDE C1.6 68 INFERRED CORONAL HOLES. LOCATIONS VALID AT 05/2400Z --------------------------------------------------- ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXTENSIONS EAST SOUTH WEST NORTH CAR TYPE POL AREA OBSN 51 N50W34 S05W64 S01W74 N50W54 170 EXT POS 023 10830A SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY ------------------------------------------------ Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn 2695 MHz 8800 MHz 15.4 GHz ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------- --------- --------- 04 Dec: 0109 0117 0121 C1.2 SF 7629 S23E52 0324 0328 0333 B5.5 0408 0411 0413 B5.2 SF 7629 S22E53 0424 0431 0441 B4.9 0508 0511 0513 B5.2 SF 7629 S23E50 0516 0522 0524 B6.6 SF 7629 S23E50 0545 0553 0558 B6.3 SF 7629 S23E50 0606 0610 0616 B5.7 SF 7629 S23E49 0658 0704 0708 B3.7 0741 0747 0751 B3.4 SF 7629 S23E51 0826 0830 0833 B5.6 1431 1436 1443 B8.3 SF 7629 S21E49 1733 1738 1744 B5.6 SF 7629 S22E44 2252 2254 2256 SF 7630 S11E43 2252 2253 2256 SF 7629 S23E42 REGION FLARE STATISTICS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY ------------------------------------------------ C M X S 1 2 3 4 Total (%) -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --- ------ Region 7629: 1 0 0 10 0 0 0 0 010 (66.7) Region 7630: 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 001 ( 6.7) Uncorrellated: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 004 (26.7) Total Events: 015 optical and x-ray. EVENTS WITH SWEEPS AND/OR OPTICAL PHENOMENA FOR THE LAST UTC DAY ---------------------------------------------------------------- Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn Sweeps/Optical Observations ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------------------------- NO EVENTS OBSERVED. NOTES: All times are in Universal Time (UT). Characters preceding begin, max, and end times are defined as: B = Before, U = Uncertain, A = After. All times associated with x-ray flares (ex. flares which produce associated x-ray bursts) refer to the begin, max, and end times of the x-rays. Flares which are not associated with x-ray signatures use the optical observations to determine the begin, max, and end times. Acronyms used to identify sweeps and optical phenomena include: II = Type II Sweep Frequency Event III = Type III Sweep IV = Type IV Sweep V = Type V Sweep Continuum = Continuum Radio Event Loop = Loop Prominence System, Spray = Limb Spray, Surge = Bright Limb Surge, EPL = Eruptive Prominence on the Limb. ** End of Daily Report ** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 20:55:37 MST From: gumby!destroyer!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!nebulus!ve6mgs!usenet@yale.arpa Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 06 December To: info-hams@ucsd.edu /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY 06 DECEMBER, 1993 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ (Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data) SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY INDICES FOR 06 DECEMBER, 1993 ------------------------------------------------------------ !!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 340, 12/06/93 10.7 FLUX=103.0 90-AVG=096 SSN=095 BKI=1122 2111 BAI=004 BGND-XRAY=B2.3 FLU1=2.3E+06 FLU10=1.1E+04 PKI=1112 2221 PAI=006 BOU-DEV=009,007,010,017,013,008,008,008 DEV-AVG=010 NT SWF=00:000 XRAY-MAX= C9.7 @ 1722UT XRAY-MIN= B1.8 @ 0141UT XRAY-AVG= B6.1 NEUTN-MAX= +002% @ 1415UT NEUTN-MIN= -002% @ 1650UT NEUTN-AVG= +0.0% PCA-MAX= +0.1DB @ 2110UT PCA-MIN= -0.4DB @ 1210UT PCA-AVG= -0.0DB BOUTF-MAX=55358NT @ 0029UT BOUTF-MIN=55344NT @ 1846UT BOUTF-AVG=55352NT GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT G7-AVG=+071,+000,+000 GOES6-MAX=P:+116NT@ 1851UT GOES6-MIN=N:-067NT@ 1022UT G6-AVG=+094,+022,-038 FLUXFCST=STD:105,105,100;SESC:105,105,100 BAI/PAI-FCST=005,005,005/010,015,010 KFCST=1123 4221 1123 4211 27DAY-AP=009,011 27DAY-KP=2323 2232 3333 3331 WARNINGS=*SWF ALERTS= !!END-DATA!! NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 05 DEC 93 was 47.8. The Full Kp Indices for 05 DEC 93 are not available. SYNOPSIS OF ACTIVITY -------------------- Solar activity was low. Region 7629 (S22E16) has grown substantially during the period. Reports of a delta configuration in the intermediate spots show a correspondence between that site and the location of two sizeable C-class flares which occurred recently. The events were a C9/1N at 1721Z and a C7/SF at 2049Z. The other two spotted regions were quiet. Solar activity forecast: solar activity is expected to be low to moderate. Region 7629 may yield an M-class event during the interval. The geomagnetic field has been mostly quiet. Geophysical activity forecast: the geomagnetic field is expected to be quiet to unsettled throughout the period. Event probabilities 07 dec-09 dec Class M 40/40/40 Class X 01/01/01 Proton 01/01/01 PCAF Green Geomagnetic activity probabilities 07 dec-09 dec A. Middle Latitudes Active 10/10/10 Minor Storm 05/05/05 Major-Severe Storm 01/01/01 B. High Latitudes Active 15/20/20 Minor Storm 10/10/10 Major-Severe Storm 01/05/05 HF propagation conditions were normal over all regions. There may have been a brief SWF over daylit paths near 17:22 UTC in conjunction with the C9.7 flare, although no reports have been received at the present time to confirm this. Conditions will continue near-normal over all regions through at least 09 December inclusive. COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS ======================================================== REGIONS WITH SUNSPOTS. LOCATIONS VALID AT 06/2400Z DECEMBER ----------------------------------------------------------- NMBR LOCATION LO AREA Z LL NN MAG TYPE 7623 S13W62 158 0000 AXX 00 001 ALPHA 7627 S18W10 106 0100 CSO 09 015 BETA 7629 S22E16 080 0190 EAO 12 024 BETA-DELTA 7630 S09E15 081 0070 DSI 06 015 BETA REGIONS DUE TO RETURN 07 DECEMBER TO 09 DECEMBER NMBR LAT LO 7618 N07 339 LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 06 DECEMBER, 1993 ------------------------------------------------------- BEGIN MAX END RGN LOC XRAY OP 245MHZ 10CM SWEEP NONE POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 06 DECEMBER, 1993 ----------------------------------------------------------- BEGIN MAX END LOCATION TYPE SIZE DUR II IV NO EVENTS OBSERVED INFERRED CORONAL HOLES. LOCATIONS VALID AT 06/2400Z --------------------------------------------------- ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXTENSIONS EAST SOUTH WEST NORTH CAR TYPE POL AREA OBSN 51 N49W41 N21W72 N23W82 N53W72 166 EXT POS 019 10830A SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY ------------------------------------------------ Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn 2695 MHz 8800 MHz 15.4 GHz ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------- --------- --------- 05 Dec: 0056 0100 0104 B3.2 1025 1033 1042 C4.3 1059 1104 1111 C2.1 1323 1336 1351 B4.7 1539 1545 1554 B6.7 SF 7629 S22E35 1621 1642 1729 C1.6 SF 7629 S22E33 2140 2226 2235 B7.2 REGION FLARE STATISTICS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY ------------------------------------------------ C M X S 1 2 3 4 Total (%) -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --- ------ Region 7629: 1 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 002 (28.6) Uncorrellated: 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 005 (71.4) Total Events: 007 optical and x-ray. EVENTS WITH SWEEPS AND/OR OPTICAL PHENOMENA FOR THE LAST UTC DAY ---------------------------------------------------------------- Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn Sweeps/Optical Observations ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------------------------- NO EVENTS OBSERVED. NOTES: All times are in Universal Time (UT). Characters preceding begin, max, and end times are defined as: B = Before, U = Uncertain, A = After. All times associated with x-ray flares (ex. flares which produce associated x-ray bursts) refer to the begin, max, and end times of the x-rays. Flares which are not associated with x-ray signatures use the optical observations to determine the begin, max, and end times. Acronyms used to identify sweeps and optical phenomena include: II = Type II Sweep Frequency Event III = Type III Sweep IV = Type IV Sweep V = Type V Sweep Continuum = Continuum Radio Event Loop = Loop Prominence System, Spray = Limb Spray, Surge = Bright Limb Surge, EPL = Eruptive Prominence on the Limb. ** End of Daily Report ** ------------------------------ Date: 6 Dec 1993 19:29:40 -0500 From: nntp.ucsb.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!newsserver.cshl.org!newsserver.cshl.org!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu Subject: For Sale - Almost new gear To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Due to some major changes in my life I am forced to sell all of my nearly new ham radio gear. All of the equipment is less than one year old, and was purchased by me. Here is the list: Kenwood TS-690 - $ 1,075. MFJ 948 Tuner $ 75. Astron RS-35m Power Supply $ 95. Kantronics KPC-3 $ 65. Alinco DJ-580 Dual Band HT $ 275. MFJ - 1796 multi band vertical Antenna $ 100. You can reach me by phone or e-mail. -Fred _______________________________________________________________________ >| ==== Fred J. Stellabotte stellabo@cshl.org >| ==== Computer Systems Manager >| ==== CFI-AI-MEI HAM: N2JCD >| ==== ___________________________________________________________ >| ==== Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory Voice: (516)367-8420 >| ==== 1 Bungtown Road Fax: (516)367-8845 >| ==== Cold Spring Harbor, New York 11724 _______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1993 19:31:06 From: usc!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.kei.com!news.oc.com!utacfd.uta.edu!rwsys!ocitor!FredGate@network.ucsd.edu Subject: HDN Releases To: info-hams@ucsd.edu The following files were processed Sunday 12-05-93: HAMLOG [ HAM: Amateur radio logging programs ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MARS.ZIP ( 157990 bytes) Keep track of MARS members & net checkins - by Jacinto Zambrana PXDB1D.ZIP ( 114688 bytes) Prefix Database for WPX - by WB4RUA ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 272678 bytes in 2 file(s) HAMNEWS [ HAM: Bulletins and Newsletters ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ARLB115.LZH ( 1197 bytes) ARRL Bulletin 12/01/93 ARLD065.LZH ( 457 bytes) ARRL DX Bulletin 11/30/93 ARLD066.LZH ( 1240 bytes) ARRL DX Bulletin 12/02/93 ARLP048.LZH ( 1190 bytes) ARRL Propagation Bulletin 12/03/93 ARRL0825.LZH ( 8246 bytes) ARRL Newsletter 08/25/93 ARRL0914.LZH ( 8392 bytes) ARRL Newsletter 09/14/93 ARRL0927.LZH ( 7273 bytes) ARRL Newsletter 09/27/93 ARRL1012.LZH ( 8439 bytes) ARRL Newsletter 10/12/93 ARRL1026.LZH ( 8590 bytes) ARRL Newsletter 10/26/93 ARRL1111.LZH ( 10314 bytes) ARRL Newsletter 11/11/93 ARRL1129.LZH ( 8486 bytes) ARRL Newsletter 11/29/93 OPDX137.LZH ( 2796 bytes) Ohio-Pa Packet Cluster DX Bulletin 11/29/93 RTDX1203.LZH ( 1595 bytes) RTTY DX Bulletin 12/03/93 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 68215 bytes in 13 file(s) HAMSAT [ HAM: Satellite tracking and finding programs ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- AMSAT331.LZH ( 4797 bytes) AMSAT Bulletin # 331 11/27/93 ARLK050.LZH ( 1906 bytes) ARRL Keps 11/30/93 SPC1129.LZH ( 3801 bytes) SPACE Bulletin 11/29/93 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 10504 bytes in 3 file(s) HAMSWL [ HAM: Shortwave broadcast schedule distribution ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- R_AUSSIE.LZH ( 986 bytes) Radio Australia SWBC Sked effective 11/21/93 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 986 bytes in 1 file(s) HAMUTIL [ HAM: Radio operating aids ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- QQSL55.ZIP ( 195395 bytes) Quick QSL V5.5 label program by Bill mullin AA4M/6 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 195395 bytes in 1 file(s) Total of 547778 bytes in 20 file(s) Files are available via Anonymous-FTP from ftp.fidonet.org IP NET address 140.98.2.1 Directories are: pub/fidonet/ham/hamnews (Bulletins) /hamant (Antennas) /hamsat (Sat. prg/Amsat Bulletins) /hampack (Packet) /hamelec (Formulas) /hamtrain (Training Material) /hamlog (Logging Programs) /hamcomm (APLink/JvFax/Rtty/etc) /hammods (Equip modification) /hamswl (SWBC Skeds/Frequencies) /hamscan (Scanner Frequencies) /hamutil (Operating aids/utils) /hamsrc (Source code to programs) /hamdemo (Demos of new ham software) /hamnos (TCP/IP and NOS related software) Files may be downloaded via land-line at (214) 226-1181 or (214) 226-1182. 1.2 to 16.8K, 23 hours a day . When ask for Full Name, enter: Guest;guest <return> lee - wa5eha Ham Distribution Net * Origin: Ham Distribution Net Coordinator / Node 1 (1:124/7009) ------------------------------ Date: 9 Dec 93 10:17:16 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: Micros & DSPs To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Hi, I wonder if anybody can help me. I am an Electronics student, and I have to do a Technical report on currecnt microp's and/or DSPs. Does anybody have any information in ASCII form they could send me abt either?? It would be a great help. Or could do you know where I could get some infomation from? I am sure that there most be somewhere on the Internet that would help? Thanks or you help. 73 de Jon G8DJU E-mail: J.Frisby@Herts.ac.uk AX25 Packet : G8DJU @ GB7DAA.#33.GBR.EU ------------------------------ Date: 30 Nov 93 23:54:17 GMT From: headwall.Stanford.EDU!unixhub!ditka!ntg!netcomsv!cds8604!NewsWatcher!user@rutgers.rutgers.edu Subject: New to HAM To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <mrexshun.0avp@tbag.tscs.com>, mrexshun@tbag.tscs.com (Pete Baker) wrote: > I have just gotten into HAM radio from Computers and was wondering if one of > you could send me the FAQ for this newsgroup. > > > > > Best Regards, > _' Pete Baker Tampa Bay Amiga Group > {~} 3.5GigaBytes of PD Files & XXX Pics > ( V-) (813) 889-9465 * (813) 889-9467 > "|Y|" mrexshun@tbag.tscs.com -or- mrexshun%tbag@uunet.uu.net > _|||_ ======================================================================== Pete, this is the way it starts. First it's computers. Then you move to amateur radio. Next you'll be wanting to get involved in basement-mounted fusion reactors and home-built spacecraft. Take my advice--get out now--before it's too late. Technical junkie-ism is a terrible dehibilitating disease that ruins marriages and undermines the sanctity of the American family. Take it from one who still has the rusted mounting bolts for the liquid-cooled CO2 laser sunken into his driveway--forget radio. Try professional golf. It's easier to master and you make more money. Joe -- Joe Mastroianni A.R.S. AA6YD | "Up the airy mountain, jdm@cadence.com | Down the rushy glen, 74107,310:cserve | We daren't go a-hunting, JOE-M:Genie | For fear of little men." | - Allingham -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed in this article do not reflect those of my employer ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 21:19:51 GMT From: netcomsv!netcom.com!greg@decwrl.dec.com To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <mac.755206284@depot.cis.ksu.edu.cis.ksu.edu>, <gregCHo43F.9o4@netcom.com>, <2e26th$e1s@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> Subject : Re: Scratchi, January, 1960 In article <2e26th$e1s@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> dm_johnson@dave.enet.dec.com (Dennis Johnson) writes: > > >Myron should not have to explain intent Myron never *has* to explain intent. Not ever. It might demonstrate wisdom and maturity to consider the impression concerning his attitudes and sensitivities which material which he chooses to post makes on other people. It might also demonstrate wisdom and maturity to consider how Asians, and particularly Japanese, people feel when they view the sort of racial/cultural stereotype which "Scratchi" represents. But he doesn't have to explain himself if he chooses not to. I would point out that only someone with sufficient faith in Myron's basic motivations being positive would bother to ask him for an explanation of his purpose in posting the material. > until true offense, not pc offense, Ah. So if post an article entirely in jive, and no black person reads it, that's an okay thing for a white man to do? And of course it won't matter if it's liberally laced with the word 'nigger?' Please explain to me how it is frivolous (which is what I believe you mean by 'pc') to express concern that someone's statements can be construed as racist. Please explain to me how it is frivolous to want this newsgroup to be a place where amateurs of many cultures can come and not have to be confronted with racism, bigotry, and stereotyping of their culture. How is that inconsistent with the idea of amateur radio being a world-wide fraternity? Are you saying, then, that the ideal of accepting people on an equal footing and treating them with enough consideration so as not to make fun of them is simply a 'politically correct' notion, and has no merit as an idea, in and of itself? Will you characterize Japanese people as funny little unassuming folk and support making fun of the way in which some of them speak, while accepting their QSL cards for a 'Worked all JA Award?' Did it ever occur to you that some reader might be too mortified and horrified to object to the use of this kind of slur? > By your intent we should disallow reproductions of bible >text because they slur certain pc categories. Do not presume to tell me my intent. I stated my intent. Your inability to comprehend it is your problem. I have said, very simply, that posting old "Scratchi" columns without some sense of purpose and intent is really not a very appropriate action, in my opinion. On the other hand, "Scratchi," for all its racist and sterotypical nature, was one of CQ's major OP-ED methods, in its day. So the underlying ideas may, indeed, shed some light on a discussion at hand. In using such material, it is customary to acknowledge that the material has some real problems. In any case, I see why there are still bigots in the world. A 1960 issue of CQ magazine ain't the Bible, not by a long shot. It is not analagous. Number one. Number two, your 'pc categories' are real people, with real feelings. And deserving of real respect for their race, culture, and heritage. Apparently you can't wrap your insensitive little racist mind around the ideas. Instead of confronting them directly, as I have done with the ideas expressed by the "Scratchi" columns, you dismiss them as 'politically correct.' As if attacking the motivations of the person who raises the notion that "Scratchi" represents a genre of material which has to be handled with some discretion will somehow make these ideas go away. Dennis, if you put yourself in the position of defending racism, in either word or deed, you align yourself with one of the great evils in the world today. Think about it. Greg ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest V93 #1440 ****************************** ******************************